Thursday, June 26, 2008

Gheorghe loves the Draft...

Finally, the NBA Draft is upon us. Unlike many of today's sports fans I am an unabashed NBA lover and therefore an enormous fan of the NBA Draft. Around this time last year, TJ said to me that though the NFL Draft is the far more publicized and glamorized event, it was the NBA Draft which he really, truly loved. I could not agree more with that sentiment.

Has any NFL Draft pick sauntered on stage in an ensemble to rival that of Jalen Rose's famous pinstripe suit? Has the NFL ever given us two collegiate teammates picked back to back only to be swapped for each other five minutes later as once happened with Vince Carter and Antawn Jamison? The answers to these questions are, of course, NO. The NBA Draft has always been a special evening of franchise changing decisions, horrible fashion choices and loads of comedy. Honestly, I still get weak when I watch the videos of the Stephen A. Smith Heckling Society of Gentleman.



So with that in mind, I've decided to get tonight's festivities started with a G:TB NBA Draft Preview.

Guys I like (ngs):

Jerryd Bayless: I don't think he should be drafted in the top 2 or 3, but I am a big fan of Skip's bastard son. He's a combo guard who may or may not be able to make the transition to a full time NBA PG. However, he already possesses a good handle, terrific athleticism and a dynamite jumpshot off the dribble. Personally, I think he's better than Ben Gordon within a year or so with a shot at being an All-Star down the road. Comparison: Monta Ellis

Danilo Gallinari: I know Euro's drafted in the top ten haven't exactly set the league on fire but this guy is different (I think). He's a proven player in both the Italian and Euroleague where he led his team in scoring at almost 15 per game. He handles it well, gets the FT line and has good size for the SF position. As always, lateral quickness is a question but he feels like a guy who could be a nice point forward in the right situation. One more thing: His nickname is, apparently...Big Cock. Seriously. Comparison: Toni Kukoc

Brandon Rush: He's the classic fifth banana. He'll play great D, knock down open shots, he's a proven winner and he can play two positions. Plus, he's not a drunk like JaRon. He was never aggressive enough at Kansas but that will be an asset for him in the NBA because he'll be content to blend and do the little things on a successful team. I had hoped he would slip to Orlando but there's no chance that happens now. Comparison: Tayshaun Prince/Josh Howard

Chris Douglas-Roberts: His unorthodox game and average long range jumper will result in him falling farther than he should tonight. He's a scorer who will find ways to get 15+ per game over the course of his NBA career. He also provides a lot of length on the perimeter defensively. He doesn't do anything great, just does everything well. He'll end up being one of the ten best players in this draft as well as the best player ever to have the Magna Carta tattooed on his arm. Comparison: ?

Courtney Lee: The most underrated player in the draft. Trainer David Thorpe compares him favorably to Kevin Martin (who Thorpe also trained for the draft). He's a great shooter (over 35% from 3 every season at WKU) who can create his own shot and also plays great D. Apparently he's also as good a citizen as you'll find in this draft. If I had my way, this is who the Magic would take. (Which of course means they won't). Comparison: Kevin Martin (I'll fucking kill myself if he's anywhere close to Martin and the Magic pass on him.)

Guys I Hate (other than Burr)

Deandre Jordan: 6'10", athletic and still couldn't manage to average double figures on a mediocre Texas A&M team. Steven Hunter reincarnated basically.

Russell Westbrook: Keyon Dooling 2.0. He's more athlete than basketball player and he has no true position. He's too small for the 2 and doesn't handle it well enough to be a full time point. Have I mentioned that he can't shoot? Yeah, well, that too.

Joe Alexander: Maybe the first ever white guy who's flying up draft boards because of his athleticism. He had about 10 good games at the end of last year and now he's a top 10 pick? If you want to know why the Bucks are consistently awful, consider this: One of the reasons they're considering drafting him is that he speaks Mandarin and that would make Yi Jianlian more comfortable. Here's an idea, get a rub and tug installed in the back of the trainer's room at the Bradley Center. Not only will that make Yi more comfortable, you won't have to waste yet another top 10 pick.

Anthony Randolph: Why would anybody draft a raw, athletic forward from LSU at this point? Isn't that like giving a record/TV deal to the youngest Spears daughter? I mean, we already know how this story ends, right? Anyway, he's 6'10", 197 lbs. and its gonna be at least 3 years before he contributes. Well then, I can see why he's being hailed as a lottery pick.

Mareese Speights: The Magic are reportedly seriously considering him. Fuck. Me. Listen, I watched this guy at UF. He's got a ton of offensive skills. What he doesn't have is heart, a motor or any desire to play physical under the boards. He's exactly the kind of guy who gets to the league and packs on 25 lbs before his rookie season. Have I mentioned he's soft as fucking cotton? I wouldn't draft him anywhere before 25.

Donte Greene: He's a "great shooter". Oh really, is that why he shot under 40% at Syracuse this year? In fairness, he's not an awful shooter, just a gunner. And, though he shoots it well "for his size" I never saw a single other thing that he did well or even really attempted to do. If you're lucky, he's a poor man's Rashard Lewis. If not, he's the black Matt Bullard. If somehow you could give his jumpshot to TJ's boy Paul Harris, well, then you'd have a player worth drafting in the top 15.

Kosta Koufos: He's American but you wouldn't know by the way he plays or his name. Far softer than Speights, which is quite an accomplishment. If I had to guess, I'd say he's Primoz Brezec. I really wish he would've stayed another year so we could've watched the Timberwolves take him in the top 5. We've all been robbed of a magical moment because this damn kid didn't want to spend another year staring at Thad Matta's pockmarked face.

Concerns (aka: Players I like but have reservations about)

Derrick Rose: Am I the only person who doesn't think he's a surefire pereniall All-Star PG? I feel like a lot of people have been seduced by his athletic gifts and aren't remembering that he only averaged 5 assists a game in an offense that was tailored to his strengths. He's a great penetrator (though he's no Greg) and a terrific defender but that jumpshot is clunky and he hasn't displayed Kidd/Paul/Williams level court vision in my opinion. I think he's a lot closer to
Tony Parker than anybody is realizing. Now, Parker's no slouch but most of us would have a different opinion of him if he were expected to be one of the league's best pure point guards.

Michael Beasley: I could honestly care less about his "character issues". I think they're overblown. Most of them were immature pranks. He's never been arrested or fought with his teammates (that we know of). I guess what I'm saying is this isn't Eddie Griffin we're talking about. My concerns arise from the fact that he's only 6'8". More than likely he's going to have to play SF in the NBA. Does he have the perimeter skills off the dribble to play out on the wing? If so, I've yet to see it. Furthermore, how's he going to defend NBA athletes on the wing? He's already known as a below average defender and that's without venturing to the perimeter and matching up against the world's best athletes. I don't think his skills translate as seamlessly to the NBA as most people assume. He may be successful but it will be a very rough transition for him. There have been a ton of player comparisons made with Beasley. Guys such as DC, Carmelo & Glenn Robinson and there's some truth in all of those. However, the one I've seen since early last year is Wayman Tisdale. Seriously, look at the size and the collegiate stats. If I find out Beasley plays the bass I'm asking for Chad Ford's job.

Eric Gordon: He's an undersized 2 who can't play anywhere else due to his below average handle. He's also a terrific athlete but I have trouble seeing him being able to take full advantage of that athleticism because of his inability to create his own shot. In order to be highly effective in the NBA he's going to have to have an offense tailored to his strengths ala Rip Hamilton or Reggie Miller. Will a team be willing to do that for a 19/20 year old?

Darrell Arthur: He's one of the most skilled big men in the draft. Unfortunately, he's not as big as once thought. He measured out at 6'7" at the predraft camp in Orlando. For a guy who has always been a 4, its tough to see him being extremely effective down low at 6'7" and with a frame as thin as his. Additionally, he's often been criticized for not going 100% all the time. Some GM is going to have to really be sold on him to pull the trigger on a guy with this many questions in the middle of the first round.

Mario Chalmers: I liked Chalmers a lot coming into the draft process. He's shoots it very well and was probably the best defensive guard in the country over the past two seasons. However, he has somehow jumped from a late 1st/early 2nd round pick all the way up to the late lottery in many projections. Hold the phone...how is this possible? He never played the point at Kansas and now he's a top 15 pick as a PG? I know being a PG in the NBA isn't as complex as it once was but don't NBA GMs want to try and get themselves a natural point? Chalmers could be very effective on a team like Cleveland where he'll share ballhandling duties and do a lot of spotting up around the arc, but there are only a few teams where he'll be able to fill a role like that. Unless he goes to a perfect situation I can see him struggling mightily to even see the floor for a year or so.

Players most likely to emerge from the stands like our hero:

1. Jason Thompson:
Local kid. He has unexpectedly shot up draft boards and now looks like a mid to late first round pick. I've got a good feeling here.

2. Ante Tomic: He's 7'2", Croatian and likely to go in the last 5 picks of the first. Sounds good to me.

3. Joey Dorsey: I wouldn't bet against Joey Dorsey doing anything tonight, including getting arrested at a club somewhere in either NY or Baltimore after the draft.

So, thats it. I'm sure you're bored to tears by now so take a break, grab a nap and meet me in the comments tonight for some hot draft action...

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Jerry said...

I wonder how Kofous will get along with Okur.

Jerry said...

Geopolitical mayhem!!! I can't believe Jackson didn't bring it up.

Mark said...

So does Arthur pull a Rashard Lewis on us?

Jerry said...

"Lawyers" make sure it's correct!

Mark said...

Doesn't Kevin Durant have somewhere better to be?

T.J. said...

FAO Schwartz is closed.

Jerry said...

For Pete's sake, a guy from the Congo? Do Arthur a favor.

Mark said...

Thats the second guy out of the stands who I've missed on. Bad night for me.

Mark said...

The Sonics are contractually obligated to take a ridiculously raw big man each year in the first round. Nothing they could do about it.

T.J. said...

Get these two a reality show.

Mark said...

If I was an NBA GM I'd try and grab a pick within the first two or three picks of the 2nd round each year. Every year, a couple of really good players slip to the early 2nd. If, by the time the roudn 2 rolls around you dont see anybody you like you can always ship that pick out for a pick next year.

Mark said...

Who's getting a reality TJ? The Van Gundys? Geoff and Stephen A?

Mark said...

That should've read "reality show"? And no, I'm not drunk...yet.

T.J. said...

Van Gundy 2 Van Gundy. They can be beach cops.

Mark said...

Mm hmm...Mm hmm...

Jerry said...

British Columbia won the college women's ultimate frisbee championship. Iris Wong made the DisCraft play of the game.

Nick Batum better get ready for his name to be substantially de-Frenched.

Mark said...

Man, I was really off my game late this afternoon...

T.J. said...

"Super duper athletic ability"?

Really?

Mark said...

Batum's arms look approximately 8 feet long.

Jerry said...

Gotta tweak the model to emphasize the foreigners.

Mark said...

So, Darrell Arthur needs a new kidney. I guess thats a red flag.

Jerry said...

A quality post from the Giants message board:

Knicks are a pathetic organization
GMEN46 : 9:52 pm
Galinwhatever the hell his name is will be a bust, why take a chacne on a european player when 90% of them do not become very good. This is ridiculous, Bayless or Gordon should have been the pick. Just awful job by old man Walsh, I am disgusted. For the first time in years I was excited to be a Knicks fan today when I woke up and again they have ruined it. This is a league of athletes, guys like GALIENEWHATEVER HIS NAME is do not make it in the NBA. I am so disappointed, this team and organization is awful. I can honestly say without a doubt I could run the Knicks better than they can and it is the truth with absolutely no experience I can run this team better. THE KNICKS ARE PATHETIC.

Mark said...

Could the Spurs actually draft an American here?

Jerry said...

"George Hill" from the witness protection program.

T.J. said...

Someone wake up Swint...he loves IUPUI.

Mark said...

I dont see anything wrong with that post. Extremely well reasoned and in no way reactionary.

Mark said...

There's no way CDR slides past Detroit unless he has an undisclosed spleen issue, of course.

rob said...

227 comments? it's gonna take me all day tomorrow to get through this. can anyone give me the cliff's notes?

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Jerry said...

How is "cash considerations" different than "cash"?

T.J. said...

Well, if you keep posting twice you're gonna make it even more difficult to sift through.

rob said...

so my favorite part so far: josh mcroberts = a free pickle. never underestimate the free pickle. first thing i eat with every sandwich.

Jerry said...

Yeah, me too.

Jerry said...

They talkin' about some kidney issue. I don't even know what a kidney is.

rob said...

kq, so subtle that half the room doesn't realize he's a she.

also, kevin love is my favorite player in this draft. just in case you were wondering.

Mark said...

I've already said it tonight but, seriously, Kevin Pritcard is the best GM in the league. They have about two teams worth of young, talented players at this point.

I like Arthur a lot, I think he'll be much better than many of the bigs taken ahead of him.

Mark said...

Stop kissing up to kq, Rob.

I did like the subtle shot at the Wiz by Arthur, "I took a test in washington and everything came out fine. I guess they dont talk to no one."

Mark said...

Swing and a miss by Bilas...

T.J. said...

Donte' Green will shoot 32 percent next year.

Mark said...

Donte Greene is passed out drunk in Baltimore right now.

Mark said...

You sure TJ. 32% seems generous. Well, maybe not since he wont get off the damned bench...

rob said...

dammit, mark.

Jerry said...

Does that mean Swint is going to start posting again?

Mark said...

Germans ride bikes to work? I had no idea...

Jerry said...

Bill Walker to Detroit. Calling it now.

Mark said...

Just take CDR already.

rob said...

is there a gtb consensus on robin lopez at 15? that seems high to me for a guy with no offensive skills.

Jerry said...

DeAndre Jordan has to be a good value at this point.

rob said...

cdr's like the 50 year-old brother at the rec center who nobody can stop. 'course that doesn't mean he could play in the nba.

T.J. said...

Celts need to take Credence here.

Mark said...

Jordan is a good pick at this point. If he's a bust you didn't miss out on much. If he develops then he's a steal.

Jerry said...

Doctors are saying that Gallinari is still growin. DOCTORS! LAWYERS!

Mark said...

I like CDR and think he'll be much better than he's being given credit for. For the record, thats the second time tonight somebdoy has referred to a black guy as "a brother". You W&M guys are like a my Dad and his friends. Old and racist.

Jerry said...

Robin Lopez strikes me as low-ceiling/medium-floor, backup useful big man. That's not inherently bad, but it's not going to change your team. I suppose it depends on the approach to the draft.

rob said...

my black/japanese friend johnny half-disagrees with you, mark.

Mark said...

FWIW, I like Robin Lopez but I think 15 was high. You could've traded down and got him. He'll bring things to the table that the Suns don't currently have on their frontline. He'll also give the Suns size in the middle for the 20-30 minutes a night that Shaq sits.

T.J. said...

Rob, did you see the Orioles took it to the Cubs again tonight? Me confused.

rob said...

tj, my night was work dinner, small talk with the wife while pretending to watch 'the next food network star' directly to this dank corner of the internetweb.

rob said...

so, no.

Mark said...

Rob...(Texas twang) I dont want your life!

rob said...

it's got some upsides, but tonight wasn't one of them.

Shlara said...

Mark, you're funny. Seriously.

Jerry said...

Must improve: Professionalism.

I'd bet the guys writing those up agonized over that description for a while.

rob said...

i did discover a nice russian river valley syrah, so i got that going for me.

Mark said...

JR Giddens in the 1st round...I'm a bit surprised. He's a hell of an athlete but his bball IQ is questionable. Oh yeah, he onced knifed a guy in Lawrence, KS.

There is still a lot of value in the 2nd round:

CDR
Bill Walker
Chalmers
Kyle Weaver
Mike taylor
DeAndre Jordan

A few more I'm missing...

Jerry said...

Hold on....Vitale is complaining about teams using "potential" as a basis for the draft and using DeAndre Jordan's slide as evidence????

Mark said...

I like this Shlara character...

Jerry said...

There's a goalie in the Premier League named Mike Taylor, but he spells it "Maik".

rob said...

shlara's a 30-something washington professional who loves sports and eddie vedder.

mark's a slightly younger tattooed basketball savant who loves making fun of older folks.

c'mon down, it's time to play 'love connection'.

Jerry said...

Yeah, I've got nothing, as ESPN runs the "please keep watching" promo...

Jerry said...

Wait, we have 2 girls on here? Or are you saying Mark is gay?

Where the deuce is Russ Granik???////

Mark said...

Wake up Jerry, Russ has been goen for two years now...

Jerry said...

I just have trouble letting go. Some people call me a cockeyed optimist full of unbridled enthusiasm.

What do I know about Walter Sharpe? He went to Miss State and UAB. Academics were not a priority.

Mark said...

walter Sharpe...struggled in college with narcoplepsy. No, really...

Mark said...

Or narcolepsy...depends where you're from...

Mark said...

Anybody know what the MSG crowd was chanting early in this Larry Brown interview?

Jerry said...

Isn't Larry Brown too old to go to tanning salons?

Mark said...

Oh shit...Joeey Dorsey comes out of the stands. I win...I win.

rob said...

i love watching joey dorsey play, and i wouldn't want him on my team.

Jerry said...

Nope. Couldn't get it. Those guys have to be pretty drunk by now.

Mark said...

I hope that Joey Dorsey moves into Zach Randolph's old house or at least buys some of Qyntel Woods' pit bulls.

Jerry said...

Dorsey being "frightening to be around" probably didn't need a qualifier.

Mark said...

It had to be good Jerry because I'm pretty sure ESPN cut out the audio.

Mark said...

We might be setting a record for draftees coming out of the stands tonight.

Mark said...

Chalmers is a terrific value at 34.

Jerry said...

TWO cousins who played for the T'Wolves?

Mark said...

And Jordan goes to LA...probably not the best place for a guy with questionable motivation.

Mark said...

Seeing guys like Chalmers and Jordan go so late (not to mention Walker) is what makes me crazy about the Magic not trying to trade into the early 2nd. Do they really think they can't improve their team at all?

Jerry said...

How the hell did Jordan average 7.9 PPG? He's 7 feet and a great athlete. That's just awful. And he's 20 years old.

Mark said...

He wasn't even starting for A&M by year's end. Hence the 2nd round pick.

Mark said...

Mbah A Moute goes to the Bucks. How can somebody who's 6'7" and only averaged 8.8 pts/game think he should be declaring for the draft? Thats fucking ridiculous.

Jerry said...

Sonny Weems sounds like a guy wearing overalls selling corn seed.

Jerry said...

And yes, I'm going to be making pithy comments until the bitter end. Fatigue is setting in, material is running dry.

CDR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark said...

Jerry, you got CDR...just about 20 picks later than predicted.

Mark said...

What the fuck is Calipari still doing there? Are him and Durant going to Scores later?

Jerry said...

Gotta love it. Making picks that make sense. At least people will be praising the Nets for the next 2 days.

Mark said...

Wow...Calipari's still beating himself up over the National Title game. I guarantee his gumaa took a smack or two in early April.

Jerry said...

The next time I stop at a BK on a road trip, I'm going to eat a Steakhouse. Lock it up.

Mark said...

I've got to admit, it does look quite good. The baked potato toppings push it over the top.

300 comments has to be some kind of obscure blog record.

Jerry said...

The next time I stop at a BK on a road trip, I'm going to eat a Steakhouse. Lock it up.

Jerry said...

EWING!

300 comments is like Deadspin, but with actual content. And only 10 people reading it.

Mark said...

2nd round sleeper: Jamont Gordon. He's huge, athletic and has a great handle. His shot is somewhat erratic but he can play and defend both positions in the NBA.

Jerry said...

WOW, Larry Bird really wants to go to bed. How about a Diet Coke or a Crunk?

Mark said...

I thought Ewing was garbage at Indiana but his game grew and he grew on me during his time at Georgetown.

He can be a nice NBA energy guy in the right situation.

Mark said...

You beat me to it. He looks like a heroin addict right now. A fat heroin addict, but a heroin addict all the same.

Jerry said...

Worst interview ever. Is this over soon?

Jerry said...

For Jay Bilas' sake, I hope somebody takes Longar Longar.

Mark said...

Its okay Jerry, you're allowed to go.

Jerry said...

For a guy who's 7'2", does his ball handling matter at all?

Goran has a pretty sweet stroke.

Jerry said...

I've been hearing about Tiago Splitter since I was in high school.

Mark said...

Goran's D and athleticism looked pretty nice too. If anybody knows international scouting, its the Spurs.

Jerry said...

OK, I'm out after the Wiz pick.

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Mark said...

You're gonna keep hearing about him because he resigned with his Spanish League team recently. He had been expected to come over and join the Spurs this upcoming season but punked out like Fran.

I never thought he was much special, an energy guy at best.

Mark said...

Walker puts a nice bow on it for you then.

Jerry said...

Hell of a name though. I could see Greg using it at a bar.

Mark said...

Bill Walker's must improve: Dribbling, Passing. Good to know he can do things other than jump.

Mark said...

Greg...must improve: Female selection, use of condoms.

Mark said...

Looks like I'm here by myself now so I'll leave it at this...Adam Silver needs to work on his presentation before next year. He looks positively terrified behind the podium.

T.J. said...

Mark, take today off, you deserve it.

And yes Jerry, Teve Torbes...er Shlara...is a female, as is KQ. G:TB is dead sexy.

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