I was very fortunate yesterday to witness arguments at the Supreme Court in Peugh vs. United States and Maryland v. King. A senior colleague of mine is a long-time friend of the Clerk of the Supreme Court, and invited me and another coworker to the proceedings as a guest of the Clerk. We sat in the first row behind the bar (not that kind of bar, Clarence). Maryland Attorney General Doug Gansler sat down right next to us, taking copious notes in the latter case. The junior of my colleagues is an Englishman, so it struck me as more than a bit interesting when he noted how impressed he was that our system of justice had been sustained for more than 300 years. Since they have that whole Magna Carta thing, and all. America, fuck yeah.
The first semi-surprise of the day was actually hearing Justice (Nah, mine's) Clarence Thomas speak. The legendarily taciturn Thomas is famous for not speaking during arguments before the Court. And true to form, he didn't ask any questions during the day's arguments, but he did offer the Court's majority opinion in Marx vs. General Revenue Corp., a scorcher of a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure (FRCP) dispute.
As impressive as the setting was (and for sheer Federal grandeur, it's hard to beat the scene when the nine Justices walk into the Court and take their seats in front of four massive Corinthian pillars), the thing that struck me the most about the proceedings was the degree of humor and banter on display. Justice Antonin Scalia is a regular Italian father, busting balls and dropping one-liners with regularity. Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Samuel Alito exchanged good-natured jibes about the relative quality of their respective circuit courts. Justice Stephen Breyer played the role of the avuncular grandfather, trying and failing to convince a litigant that he was but a simple caveman Justice who didn't understand this complicated modern legal system.
Meanwhile, Justice Thomas flopped about in his enormous chair in a most impressive display of active listening. He alternately leaned deeply back and stared up at the ceiling, pursing his lips and wrinkling his brow, then shot forward propelled by the chair's springs to a fully upright position. His seated gymnastics were something to behold.
It will come as no surprise to our readers to learn that I'm generally inclined to disagree with Justice Scalia's politics. It may be quite a shock to know that I found him generally likable, in a curmudgeonly way. To be sure, he's an asshole. But he comes across as our kind of asshole - irascible and prone to sarcasm. As she opened of the State's argument in Maryland v. King, Chief Deputy Attorney General Katherine Winfree described some of positive benefits derived from the State's policy of collecting DNA samples for people arrested for certain violent and property crimes. Scalia let her talk for maybe 15 seconds before letting go with both barrels. From the transcript:
MS. WINFREE: Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court: Since 2009, when Maryland began to collect DNA samples from arrestees charged with violent crimes and burglary, there had been 225 matches, 75 prosecutions and 42 convictions, including that of Respondent King.
JUSTICE SCALIA: Well, that's really good. I'll bet you if you conducted a lot of unreasonable searches and seizures, you'd get more convictions, too.
(Laughter.)
JUSTICE SCALIA: That proves absolutely nothing.
This was Ms. Winfree's first-ever argument before the Supreme Court. To her eternal credit, she took Scalia's shot and pressed on. I consider myself a reasonably effective extemporaneous speaker and a relatively accomplished bullshitter, and I'm quite certain I would've wet myself and then passed out. Which brings me to another lasting impression: the quality of the intellects on display, both on the bench and among the attorneys presenting their cases, was staggering. We witnessed highly sophisticated legal arguments crafted, deconstructed, reframed, and debated (the Justices spent at least part of the time arguing with one another via their questions to counsel) on the fly.
We watched the law happen.
At some point in the proceedings, Justice Alito noted that "this is the most important criminal procedure case this Court has had in decades". In essence, the Court must decide whether DNA data can be used much in the same way fingerprints are today, or whether taking a DNA sample from an arrested suspect constitutes unlawful search and seizure. Scalia clearly believes the latter. Justices Elena Kagan and Sotomayor seemed to be concerned with the implications of police overreach. Interestingly, Justice Alito asked a series of questions that indicated he may dissent from fellow conservatives, saying twice that DNA "is the 21st Century fingerprint". And Chief Justice John Roberts was oddly obsessed with DNA left on drinking glasses, though his questions made it clear that his position on the matter was somewhat undetermined. As for me, I know what I think, but I have no idea how that jibes with the Constitution - which, frankly, is why this experience was such a fascinating one for me.
I bought this hat for Zman and Mayhugh |
Smarter observers than I expect the Court to uphold Maryland's DNA collection policy, which was supported by an amicus brief filed on behalf of all 50 states and a number of law enforcement organizations. Those same observers also think the Court's normal 5-4 conservative/liberal balance will be significantly upended in this case. The fact that Alito, Breyer, and Kennedy seemed to agree on many elements of the case perhaps presages the result. Still time to get to your local bookmaker if you like what you hear.
If you're a legal scholar, or if you just want some jurisprudence, the recap of Tuesday's arguments is available at SCOTUSblog.
It's easy to be jaded, and even easier to toss off half-baked partisan-flavored snark (though, in all seriousness, the House GOP makes Jim Zorn look like Vince Lombardi). Having the opportunity to actually watch the Supreme Court in action is impressive from a purely human perspective, and profoundly compelling as an act of government. Those Founding Fathers, man, they knew some shit. Shame they didn't have an opinion on large-magazine automatic weapons.
28 comments:
danimal, steph curry was f'awesome last night. really fun to watch. tyson chandler's 28(!) boards kinda got lost in the shuffle.
had i watched scalia's peformance yesterday in arguments on the voting rights act, i might have changed the description to 'he's our kind of racist dickhead'.
Chris Kelsay is retiring after playing 10 seasons with the Bills, 9 of them as a starter and at least 5 of them as a whipping boy on Bills message boards despite being, at least in my view, a hard-working lunchpail type of guy. The team went 63-97 during his career. He never played in a playoff game.
You get a pretty mixed bag of participation from the Supreme Court depending on the topic of the day. Sotomayor absolutely owns commerce clause cases while Alito seems to come alive for criminal procedure (and in one of the CC cases I saw, Alito not only did not ask any questions, he may looked like he was asleep half the time). Alito seems to be pretty much the class clown. Ginsberg and Sotomayor are the most impressive to me. I once saw Ginsberg ask a 19-part question (and she remembered each part and prompted the attorney when they stumbled).
Somewhat interestingly, according to the internet, all of the Justices are either Jewish or Catholic. No other religions represented.
Meant Scalia was class clown.
scalia was definitely the class clown. he was doing schtick the whole time. ginsberg was really frail, but definitely sharp.
What about the ruling on US vs Feingold? If a man is accidentally incinerated while wearing another man's suit then he is entitled to no less than $10,000 in airline tickets.
feingold is einhorn
Schneider is Einhorn.
Seems like it would be ripe to match up Justices with GTB staff. Strangely, I don't think Clarence and Clarence would match up.
Greg, that's US vs. Fishbine. Get your faux jurisprudence straight.
Dont forget about the Supreme Folk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2DJ3g-je7g
Good post, Rob. That had to be a very cool experience. I'd still rather have been in the front row of MSG last night for Stephen Curry's performance because I'm not a very well rounded human being.
Just wanted to wish you all a Happy Conclave. I'm guessing that for some of you the upcoming papal voting is like Festivus. You know, because you're such dedicated Catholics.
Some of these guys are a little green in their Catholicism, but their efforts in Conclave will not be half-baked.
Your analysis is kind, bud.
You guys are good with the word play. And by "good", I mean annoying.
I gotta say, the breadth of topics covered on GTB is pretty astounding.
we're renaissance dipshits, rootsy
At an awards dinner. A number of honorees. Each honoree gets roughly two minutes to say thank you. This lady just spoke for 27 minutes. Sober. I'll never understand this way of being.
can't wait to read tomorrow's virginian-pilot story about clarence's reprise of riggo's 'loosen up, sandy baby' moment.
The Daily Press is hosting tonight. But that would be sweet . . . and possible if they hadn't stopped serving beer two hours ago.
You didn't tell the bar keep to keep a secret stash of Dale's just for you?
They said there would be a cash bar during dinner. I took out a ridiculous amount of cash right before I got here. It's just cheap wine. Eh. Clarence isn't feeling it.
tribe's got the 6 seed in richmond. we'll probably play mason again. we've been tied with them with three minutes or less in both of first two matchups - lost both.
"Clarence isn't feeling it." Mark your calendars boys. Today is e beginning of the end.
Joakim Noah had 23-21-11 (blocks) tonight. I love that guy.
I was sure that me rooting for UVA (it's like Halley's Comet) was fueling Duke's last-minute surge, but the Hoos (dorky) hung in there. That Joe Harris fellow is not awful.
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