Tuesday, June 19, 2007

"How much do you want to bet?

The usual amount.
Why not?"

It seems there are endless bets being thrown around here at G:TB, but this is one I didn't want to forget (mainly because I plan on winning it). Once Roger Clemens announced his return to the Yankees, everyone and their mother had some sort of opinion on it, including this initial comment from Rob (don't worry, we won't hold you to these stats) and my deeply insightful reply:
Rob: How about some clemens predictions from the rocket surgeons here at g:tb?

starts: 22
record: 9-7
yankees' record: 14-8
era: 3.98
innings/start: 5.8

TJ: I will happily take that.
Rob was also apparently impressed by a Seth Mnookin post regarding Roger's return, and the Rocket's chances to pitch better than Tim Wakefield for the rest of the season (Seth had Wake's back in that fight), which led to the actual bet we will be tracking:
Rob: teejay - seth mnookin postulates today that tim wakefield will have better stats at the end of the year than clemens. wanna make that interesting?

TJ: As for Wake vs. Clemens, I've already got two cases coming my way, so sure, I'll spin one into this bet. What measurables are we using?

TJ: Well, Sethie seems to be using ERA, WHIP and BAA in his argument, so it seems we should use those as well.

Rob: deal.
So there you have it: Rob vs. TJ...Red Sox vs. Yankees...Tim Wakefield vs. Roger Clemens. Correct me if I'm wrong Robert, but the bet began with Roger's first start, yes? And these are the stats we're using: ERA, WHIP, BAA? If so, the early bet stats are below (and yes, I realize until I do a bit more math, these pitching lines do not match the actual bet metrics...give me some time, I'm not Rob Neyer):

Wake:
June 12 - 8.0 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 1 ER
June 17 - 5.2 IP, 8 H, 1 BB, 5 ER

Rocket:
June 9 - 6.0 IP, 5 H, 2 BB, 3 ER
June 15 - 6.1 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 2 ER

43 comments:

T.J. said...

Oh yeah, those two cases I thought were locked up...well, someone better tell the Washington Nationals to start playing like the Washington Generals, or I'm screwed.

rob said...

man, wake was pitching a lot better when i made that bet. nonetheless, i'll take my lumps like a man.

T.J. said...

Otherwise, I've got everything documented correctly?

Whitney said...

We need a Bet Book post for all of our wagers. Someone who knows how to engineer tables into this mechanism, step up.

T.J. said...

Has anyone mentioned what a piss poor job Leo Mazzone has done in Baltimore? I realize Sam Perlozzo was pretty terrible, but Mazzone the Pitching Messiah hasn't exactly delivered the goods either.

Greg said...

Baltimore doesn't have a really strong club to start with. I don't see how another manager is going to change things around there.

rob said...

right now:

era:

wake - 3.95
fat billy - 3.64

whip:

wake - 1.02
texas con man - 1.22

baa:

is gonna be really difficult to calculate

T.J. said...

We have an intern here at Kramerica for the summer - looks like I have a new project for him.

T.J. said...

And I just found out I know Matt Harpring's wife...not in the biblical sense.

T.J. said...

Rob, why don't you email your boy Seth and tell him to figure this shit out for us.

rob said...

wake's baa ytd is .236, clemens' is .250

guess we'll (and be we, i mean you) need to go through the box scores for wake's last two outings to get the actual.

T.J. said...

Better Meatloaf: the food product, or the rocker?

TR said...

Did anybody else notice that deadspin provided a link to the GTB article on the minor league hitting streak?

Congrats.

T.J. said...

Gracias, and we did indeed notice...because it requires shameless self-promotion on our part to get Will to link to us.

Geoff said...

Today's trivia question:

NFL quarterback with the longest active streak of games with at least one TD pass?

T.J. said...

OK, Peyton is too easy...I'll go with Drew Brees.

Geoff said...

Negative. Clue: Chad Sexington is second with 6 consecutive games with a TD.

Mark said...

Jeff Garcia?

Geoff said...

Negative.

T.J. said...

I can't believe I'm guessing him, but...Jon Kitna?

Geoff said...

Nope. Next clue: He attended an SEC school.

T.J. said...

Stupid Eli?

Mark said...

Rex Grossman?

Mark said...

Jay Cutler.

Geoff said...

Clue: He is penciled in as the presumptive starter for an NFL franchise next season.

Geoff said...

No, on Cutler.

Mark said...

It's gotta be YOUR boy Campbell then, no?

T.J. said...

Ahhhhh, that would make sense...

Mark said...

However it turns out, this was a truly pathetic dsiplay on our part TJ.

Geoff said...

Yes, it is Jason Campbell...had 10 TDs in his final 7 games and is the current active leader in consecutive games with a TD.

T.J. said...

Yep, we suck.

T.J. said...

More or less surprising than PacMan Jones being investigated re. a strip club-related shooting?

NORWICH, Conn. -- Former NBA All-Star Vin Baker, whose 14-year career was marred by bouts of depression and alcoholism, was charged early Tuesday with drunken driving after leaving a casino.

T.J. said...

Come on, they seriously named the Atlanta franchise the Krunk?

The Atlanta Krunk of the CBA announced the hiring of Kenny Anderson as their new head coach for the 2007-08 season.

Greg said...

The Crunk is/are fannnnnnntastic. They are/is everywhere you want to be.

T.J. said...

Greg, you should be their GM.

Greg said...

Damn right I should be. I'm sure I'd do a better job than Kenny Anderson.

T.J. said...

The Kings hired Reggie Theus? Really? They might've been better off with Kenny Anderson...or Greg.

T.J. said...

I'm going to need to reschedule my morning meetings - I have some serious reading to do.

T.J. said...

Oh yeah, Jim Bowden IS calling up Brandon Watson today. Nice.

Mark said...

TJ-- Need I remind you of the tremendous job that Reggie did with that ragtag bunch of players on Hangtime? I think he's more than proven himself.

Greg said...

Wow....just wow. If that's not OJ's confession, then I don't know what is.

I wonder if the "jurors" are still convinced. If anything, they should feel hoodwinked.

Whitney said...

That's assuming the OJ jurors can read.

kungpao said...

Deadspin links to you, you blogroll me... that makes me famous.