Tuesday, January 26, 2021

Hall and Votes: Say It Isn't So

[I could've used "Out of Touch," "I Can't Go For That," or "You Make My Dreams Come True" in the title, but I went with the quote legendarily attached to the Shoeless Joe saga.]

I thought I would lend some thoughts to today's annual Baseball Hall of Fame announcement.  It's an interesting year, and not in a wonderful way.  Well, the professionals have already covered this ground better than I can, so I'll just link to them, lift a graphic and ask a question:


So... who ya like?

I'd especially like to hear from OBX Dave...

17 comments:

rob said...

without grinding on the stats, my quick reaction is that i'd vote for wagner, sheffield, helton, and andruw jones.

TR said...

WHERE IS FRED MCGRIFF!? FREE THE CRIME DOG!

rootsminer said...

He's still trying to get Jobu from Major League to teach him to his a curveball.

Whitney said...

According to one of the linked articles, the Crime Dog is a lock eventually via the Veterans Committee, but your point is taken.

Whitney said...

According to the stats guys, the player with the highest career Wins Above Replacement (WAR) on the ballot after Bonds, Clemens, & Schilling... man oh man, imagine getting invited to play cards and drink beer for an evening with those 3... no thank you, sirs...

Anyway, it's Scott Rolen. His 70.1 ranks above Manny, Andruw, Helton, Sheffield, Sosa, and all the rest of the ballot. Now you know.

Marls said...

If it was the douchenozzle HOF, Jeff Kent would be first ballot. He is the Mike Love of second basemen.

Whitney said...

There's your next assignment, Timmy.

zman said...

Manny should be in. Feel free to pile on and tell me I’m wrong but I watched the guy day in day out for years. If he was at the plate I was t going anywhere until his at-bar was over. I miss him.

Whitney said...

In addition to that impressive aesthetic, Manny's numbers are just ridiculous. That he failed 2 PED tests is killing him. But I think if you start to let in the steroid guys, he has to be there.

Joe Morgan, in his open letter to the Hall of Fame, 2017:

"Steroid users don't belong here. What they did shouldn't be accepted... in the most sacred place in Baseball."

Jeff Passan, MLB columnist, in his 2017 article entitled I am giving up my Hall of Fame vote because of Joe Morgan’s letter:

"If, by sacred place, the Hall means one in which racists, wife beaters, drunks, gamblers and purveyors of manifold moral turpitude otherwise are celebrated, well, Cooperstown is a shining beacon of divinity set upon a hill of hypocrisy."

zman said...

Why you gotta shit on rob's ancestors like that?

rob said...

crime dog's numbers get more and more impressive considering what we've learned about the era in which he played. he's a slam dunk with the vets committee.

OBX dave said...

Hey Whit, I'll write a post about the HoF for the next day or so. Passan is quite good and quite correct.

Whitney said...

Thanks, Dave.

To put a bow on this post, nobody was voted in today. Anticlimactic but I’m happy with that.

Whitney said...

From Twitter

Curt Schilling in letter to the Hall of Fame: "I will not participate in the final year of voting. I am requesting to be removed from the ballot. I’ll defer to the veterans committee and men whose opinions actually matter and who are in a position to actually judge a player.''

Maybe some armed, inbred Aryan youth should break into Cooperstown and rough some shit up.

TR said...

It’s kind of a baller move. The sportswriters are a mixed bag. Lots of holier than thou types mixed in with the good people.

rob said...

i think schilling probably belongs in the hall. and i'm glad he wasn't voted in. i don't mind that prick having to stew in it for a while.

rob said...

which one of those types of sportswriters is fairbank?