The War Between the States was known ignominiously as casting brother vs. brother in the field of battle. It wasn't the only time such a stage was set. Fratres who share DNA and Greek affiliation alike don't always get along, and when they don't, it can be especially ugly.
Especially in rock and roll. A few notorious brother battles:
The Fogertys (John and Tom)
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Fogerty sons weren't so fortunate, as it turned out. Little brother John rose to prominence as the band's leader, and he both behaved despotically and also led them into one of the classic 60's/70's awful record deals. Tom couldn't stop John's reign, so he bolted, and it all blew up. Someday they would make amends... except Tom died 30 years ago, so someday never came. John's solo act rolls on after four decades.
The Davies (Ray and Dave)
The Kinks
London scrappers Ray and Dave are well respected men with an illustrious career but have never, ever gotten along. They fought onstage and off, and they shitcanned The Kinks decades ago. When Dave had a stroke some years back, there was hope of a reconciliation, but better things between them have not materialized. They each keep playing, just never together.
The Gallaghers (Noel and Liam)
Oasis
As chronicled a decade ago, these boys can be real douches. Despite a rise to popularity, they spend their lives wallowing in look-back anger and vitriol for the world, especially each other. Their bands are now Beady Eye and Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. I'll let you guess whose is whose. I cannot vouch for either.
The Robinsons (Chris and Rich)
The early days of the Crowes were filled with drunken on-stage antics and stories of Chris being hard to handle. They subsequently morphed into a great Southern rock band, but like the others on this list, there has been no remedy for the fraternal in-fighting. They now play in the Chris Robinson Brotherhood and Magpie Salute. I've seen the former and heard good things about the latter. Maybe this is better for both of them.
There are other examples, but I draw your attention to one of the most inane. I obviously can't comment on the behind-the-scenes drama that goes back a generation or two among siblings, but a band that used to have some street cred, then got popular, then cashed in and coasted but was at the very least a fun, lively, talented band to take in . . . well, they've imploded and now there are two separate bands that represent a hole far less great than the sum of its parts.
The Campbells (Ali and Robin)
UB40
This dispute bubbled over in 2008, with lead singer Ali leaving presumably for dollars-and-cents reasons. So now there is UB40 . . . and UB40 Featuring Ali Campbell, Astro and Mickey Virtue (a couple of other original members). Each singing their "own songs," the old stuff. You all know how I feel about fragmented bands touring under their original names. This is doubly dumb.
Lawsuits abound, and there is no end in sight. Brothers have disowned each other. There's a documentary about the split. Can't we all just get along?
Seriously. One of the acts (the one without parenthetical clarification) now has a song called "What happened to UB40." Have a listen if you dare.
Lyrics:
Look. I saw UB40 in 1988 at the Boathouse. Tip. Top. They were damn good musicians playing great reggae harmonies. The decade or two that followed for UB40 featured an over-reliance on watered-down covers of old standards, but their more politically-minded material of the early 80's was good reggae. These guys should get it together -- literally -- and channel their angst into the more spitfire sound of their youth.
Anyway, do NOT go see either version of them until that happens, but in the meantime, be kind to your brothers (and sisters), and check out UB40 below, when they weren't a soft reggae-lite factory of dreck. My preferred tunes of theirs, in order...
Lawsuits abound, and there is no end in sight. Brothers have disowned each other. There's a documentary about the split. Can't we all just get along?
Seriously. One of the acts (the one without parenthetical clarification) now has a song called "What happened to UB40." Have a listen if you dare.
Lyrics:
What Happened to UB40That's . . . something. To all you who said Bob Marley and Yoko Ono would never be name dropped in the same song . . . there you go.
Say what happened to UB40 now
Some off them think dem bigger than Bob Marley WHOA!
Who's who in a the party now
Gould's lurking in the corner now
Some of dem flimsy some of dem
shallow, want dem money in a Wheelbarrow
Dem mind is weak dem mind it Narrow, Little after dat them get para
Three Yoko Ono's so craving, dem want new house new car and tings
Spangles and bangles and Diamond rings,
you can hear them coming dem a J'lingaling
Say what happened to UB40 now
Some off them think dem bigger than Bob Marley WHOA!
Who's who in a the party now
Gould's lurking in the corner now
One Man try fe go Solo, like the explorer Marco Polo
The attendance weak de attendance low
Him have fe stop cause him woulda bruk fe sure...
Your best friend could be your worst
enemy, him a backbiter tun spy tun thief
Him pride broke down say him a creep creep
Oh gosh me bredrin you done know we have fe weep...
Say what happened to UB40 now
Some off them think dem bigger than Bob Marley WHOA!
Who's who in a the party now
Gould's lurking in the corner now
Look. I saw UB40 in 1988 at the Boathouse. Tip. Top. They were damn good musicians playing great reggae harmonies. The decade or two that followed for UB40 featured an over-reliance on watered-down covers of old standards, but their more politically-minded material of the early 80's was good reggae. These guys should get it together -- literally -- and channel their angst into the more spitfire sound of their youth.
Anyway, do NOT go see either version of them until that happens, but in the meantime, be kind to your brothers (and sisters), and check out UB40 below, when they weren't a soft reggae-lite factory of dreck. My preferred tunes of theirs, in order...
23 comments:
I think your playlist failed to embed. But nice post!
The Everly Brothers could be considered pioneers of this phenomenon in rock. If you include country artists, the list gets a lot longer - Louvins, Monroes, Bolicks, Kershaws.
My boys have that thing that brothers sometimes have where they can harmonize with each other in a special way, but have no interest in doing so unless they're fucking around. As much as I like to hear it, I'm not pushing it. We know how that story tends to go.
Indie rock brothers that hated each other:
Gary Lee and Jan Conner (Screaming Trees) They would get into fist fights on stage, sometimes using their musical instruments to hit each other. They were big dudes.
William and Jim Reid (The Jesus and Mary Chain) On again right now but took about 10-15 years off. Saw them in 2015, decent show but they kept slighting each other, that's putting it nicely, after each song. Very interesting dynamic. If memory serves me, William never came back for the encores.
Teedge, this is in Lynchburg! Not the perfect color for you but on-brand nonetheless.
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Push your boys hard, Rootsy. Worked well for the Jacksons.
And Whit, this post is fantastic and something only you could do this well.
I have a friend who is a HUGE Crowes fan. His son’s middle name is Robinson. He’s very in the loop on the Robinson brother acrimony. Apparently, Chris was on Stern recently (1-2 yrs ago), shitting on Magpie Salute. He called it a Crowes cover band b/c they play some Crowes tunes. He had a funny phrase: “What a world we live in. John Mayer’s in the Dead and my brother’s in a Black Crowes cover band.”
I saw Chris Robinson solo in the mid-aughts. Show was not clearly advertised. The Crowes fans showed up liquor drunk, planning to hear rock. Instead, they got Chris doing acoustic ballads, many of which were love songs. Crowd got pissed and started screaming “Yoko Hudson.” Pretty funny. But not for Chris.
tr, please keep encouraging him. it's good for the postcount. and excellent work on the teevee yesterday. you're a lean, mean, persian fighting machine.
justin pierce is transferring to north carolina. that's a punch in the groin.
Says Pierce graduated in 3 years. That’s hard as hell at W&M. How does an athlete do that? Summer classes? Come into school w/ a shit-ton of AP credits?
Right on time, I just ran into the mom of two of the most badass musicians I know, who just reprised their old band The Red Skulls for a high level reunion show last month.
I hope they'll keep something going on together, and either of them could front a band that could stand with the great ones. It always seems to be the showbiz pressure/fame/substance abuse cycle that turns shit bad, and I don't think that's a huge risk of here.
Captain America doesn't help that band any, either.
Thanks, TR. And Z, the Spotify playlist is working for me. Not sure what you're seeing.
Some here may remember my trusty 24" tall water pipe named Captain America.
tr, next time you’re on the telly, you should rip off your fancy suit and give the camera a back-flex so you can show off your tattoo. you’d be infamous, which as you know, is more than famous.
I remember Captain America and the Spirit of 76. Is Stimulator Jones one of those badass musicians?
I did enough “ripping my shirt....and other clothing articles” off during college, thankyouverymuch.
Yeah Z, stim is the younger. His big bro isn’t quite the multi instrumental savant that he is, but is a bang on lead guitar frontman AND a great drummer. They both are.
I’m not a Philly fan in any way but I’m a basketball fan. And as a basketball fan, I’d really like to see Ben Simmons develop even a passable jumpshot. He’s so damn good at most everything else it’ll be a shame if he can’t at least keeps teams honest with a consistent midrange jumper.
truth, mark. that'd be something else.
matt milon is transferring to ucf. nathan knight is working out for the hawks. the dismantling continues apace.
steph curry's mom seems not to be aging. that must be nice for dell.
I almost want to see my alma mater go 5-23 next year to prove the point. But I don’t, really.
last time my brother and i played any significant music together was "weeping radish blues." not because we fight. just because he's a way better musician than me . . .
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