Showing posts with label NFL Draft Futility. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NFL Draft Futility. Show all posts

Wednesday, November 01, 2017

A Bills/Browns Review, Alternately Titled "A Tale of Two Shitties"

Some might say we've been mercifully spared, while others might say mercilessly denied, another of my Bills/Browns previews because the Bills and Browns finished third and fourth in their divisions, respectively, in 2016 (as opposed to their usual last-place finishes that produce this herpetic matchup). As a result I wrote this Bills/Browns review, to review some of the awful decisions they've made.

My friend Mark is a Dolphins fan and he has a theory about the NFL draft: take a quarterback every year, and if you don't have a good one take the best one you can get in the first round, even if you have to trade up. In his view, amassing piles of draft picks like the Patriots do is great only if you have a good quarterback like the Patriots do. This opinion reflects the harsh reality that it's almost impossible to win a Super Bowl with even an average quarterback. Thus having great depth in the defensive backfield and tremendous special teams specialists does you little good unless you have a real stud under center.

Mark is further of the view that you know if a QB is a bust after two years. If so, move on. He's fine with rolling the dice on a high draft pick and moving on quickly if the player is a bust, so long as this risk is taken at the QB position. In his view, a complete bust is better than winding up with a guy like Ryan Tannehill because it's easy to move on from a bust. If you move on from Ryan Tannehill you could wind up with a total bust or even worse, Jay Cutler, so you're stuck with mediocrity for a number of years until the coach gets fired and a new regime comes in and cleans house.

The Browns highlight the flaws in Mark's theory. I'll explain. Here are the names of people who have thrown ten or more passes in a game for the Browns since 2012:

Cody Kessler
DeShone Kizer
Kevin Hogan
Robert Griffin
Josh McCown
Charlie Whitehurst
Austin Davis
Johnny Manziel
Brian Hoyer
Jason Campbell
Brandon Weeden
Thaddeus Lewis
Colt McCoy

Factory of sadness indeed. Here are the names of some QBs the Browns chose not to draft since 2012:

Deshaun Watson (they traded this pick to Houston, then took DeShone Kizer later)
Carson Wentz (they traded this pick to Philadelphia, then took Cody Kessler later)
Dak Prescott (they took Cody Kessler the round before)
Derek Carr (they took Johnny Manziel the round before)
Jimmy Garoppolo (again, they took Johnny Manziel the round before)
Russell Wilson (they took Brandon Weeden two rounds before)
Kirk Cousins (again, they took Bradon Weeden three rounds before)

To be fair, every team in the league passed on Prescott, Garoppolo, Wilson and Cousins ... and the Browns drafted Weeden, Manziel, Kessler and Kizer so they seem to be following Mark's theory. But the theory works best if the folks making the picks aren't completely asleep at the wheel. But even a blind squirrel can manage to bust a nut once every six drafts, right?

It is well established that I'm an idiot. However, when the Bills traded back from #10 in this year's draft I said "Did the Bills just do something that makes sense? Wow." and then "Although I would've been excited for them to get Deshaun Watson." He was tremendous in college and he's looked great so far this year. It didn't require piercing insight to recognize that Watson had yoodge upside--did you see the National Championship game?

Further, when the R**skins drafted Robert Griffin they also drafted Kirk Cousins. These picks worked out (compared to the situation in Cleveland at least). Would it have killed the Browns to take Weeden AND Cousins or Kessler AND Prescott? It's not like they're using their picks wisely and drafting well at other positions.

Seriously, the Browns suck at drafting all over the field. Here's the top 25 players the Browns drafted since 2012 ranked by career average value:


You know you're bad at drafting when the third-best player you've taken in the last six years is Trent Richardson. Who the hell is Mitchell Schwartz, other than the best Browns draftee of the past six years? I would've assumed he was a CPA, anesthesiologist, maybe a securities litigator. Turns out he's a Kansas City Chief! He went to KC last year and turned in his best career season to date in terms of AV. Typical Browns. Note that eight of these top 25 aren't in the the NFL anymore. That's not good.

All this is to say: the Browns realize that they don't have a QB, they realize that they need a QB, and they're actively drafting QB's, but they're either too dumb or too shook or too cheap or some combination thereof to draft a QB early in the first round. They need to talk to Mark. He hasn't said this, but I think his theory demonstrates the problem with advanced metrics that focus too much on "draft capital." Having all 32 picks in the seventh round might add up to a lot of "draft capital," but none of those players are likely to make your team better. At some point you have to take your balls out of your purse and spend a bunch of capital on a highly rated quaterback.

Buffalo's recent history highlights the potential merits of Mark's theory--you are never going to get a good QB unless you draft one (except for the Saints with Drew Brees, which must still piss off Charger fans). Here's a list of alleged humans that threw 10 or more passes for the Bills since 2012:

Tyrod Taylor
Cardale Jones
EJ Manuel
Kyle Orton
Jeff Tuel
Thaddeus Lewis (overlap!)
Ryan Fitzpatrick

Not exactly a beauty pageant. Unlike Cleveland, the Bills don't seem to feel any need to address this deficiency. Here's who they've drafted at QB since 2012:

Nathan Peterman
Cardale Jones
EJ Manuel

It's as if they're completely ignoring the position. Like the Browns they suck at drafting too:


Ten of their top 25 picks from the last six drafts are out of the league. Awful.

More remarkable, in my view, was their recent move to trade Marcell Dareus to Jacksonville for a sixth round pick. Much is made of the Bills' long-running failure to reach the postseason. What makes this particularly painful is that they haven't completely bottomed out (unlike the Browns) so they're typically good enough to get 6-7 wins and don't draft at the top of the board. Dareus, however, was the third pick of the 2011 draft and he played well for Buffalo. Getting only a sixth round pick for him is painful. You know what's really painful though? This:


Buffalo could've had any of these players on their team today other than Cam Newton or Von Miller. Instead they have a future sixth round pick. How's that for effective use of draft capital?! But I guess it isn't much more frustrating than this:


Buffalo could've stayed at 9, drafted Odell Beckham Jr. (or anyone else on this list except for Blake Bortles), and still had a first round pick in 2015. Instead they traded up for Sammy Watkins who they later traded for EJ Gaines and a 2nd round pick.

The one thing that remains constant is the Browns seem destined to win no more than four games, while the Bills are a near-lock to win six or seven. Which is particularly galling given that the Bills' personnel decisions make it appear that they're tanking. They can't even tank right!

I foresee the Browns having a top-three pick in April, while the Bills will have their own pick (figure somewhere around 14-16) and the Chiefs' (figure somewhere around 28-29). The Bills will trade both picks and Tyrod Taylor to the Browns for their pick, then draft a nose tackle. The Browns will draft QBs with both of the Bills' picks and both will suck. Whoever picks one or two spots after the Bills will get a Pro Bowl caliber QB. Neither team will hire Mark, but maybe they should.

Thursday, April 25, 2013

A Bills Draft Preview and Review, Alternatively Titled "A Confederacy of Dunces"

The NFL draft kicks off tonight and despite my well-documented lack of college football knowledge I, perhaps predictably, present a few thoughts on what the Bills will do. Note that I'm the same idiot who joked that they would take AJ Green but wanted them to take Nick Fairley.

I had an email exchange with Teedge and Work Jerry that went like this:

Teedge: Buddy nix gonna f**k this up
Work Jerry: yup
zman: Was that ever a question?
Teedge: nope

We all reached this conclusion based on the following data, i.e., Buddy Nix's picks since he joined the Bills in 2009:

Misc Rushing Receiving
Year Rnd Pick Player Pos Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk
2012 1 10 Stephon Gilmore CB BUF 2012 2012 0 0 1 4 1
2012 2 41 Cordy Glenn T BUF 2012 2012 0 0 1 6
2012 3 69 T.J. Graham WR BUF 2012 2012 0 0 1 3 1 5 0 31 322 1
2012 4 105 Nigel Bradham OLB BUF 2012 2012 0 0 1 5
2012 4 124 Ron Brooks CB BUF 2012 2012 0 0 0 1
2012 5 144 Zebrie Sanders T BUF 2012 2012 0 0 0 0
2012 5 147 Tank Carder ILB BUF 2012 2012 0 0 0 1
2012 6 178 Mark Asper G BUF 2012 2012 0 0 0 0
2012 7 251 John Potter K BUF 2012 2012 0 0 0 0
2011 1 3 Marcell Dareus DT BUF 2011 2012 0 0 2 14 11.0
2011 2 34 Aaron Williams DB BUF 2011 2012 0 0 1 5 1
2011 3 68 Kelvin Sheppard LB BUF 2011 2012 0 0 2 10 2.0
2011 4 100 Da'Norris Searcy DB BUF 2011 2012 0 0 0 3 1
2011 4 122 Chris Hairston OL BUF 2011 2012 0 0 0 8
2011 5 133 Johnny White RB BUF 2011 2012 0 0 0 0 20 72 0 1 -3 0
2011 6 169 Chris White LB BUF 2011 2012 0 0 0 1
2011 7 206 Justin Rogers DB BUF 2011 2012 0 0 0 2 2
2011 7 245 Michael Jasper DT BUF 2011 2011 0 0 0 0
2010 1 9 C.J. Spiller RB BUF 2010 2012 0 0 1 21 388 2088 10 106 885 5
2010 2 41 Torell Troup DT BUF 2010 2012 0 0 0 2
2010 3 72 Alex Carrington DE BUF 2010 2012 0 0 0 5 4.0
2010 4 107 Marcus Easley WR BUF 2011 2012 0 0 0 0
2010 5 140 Ed Wang T BUF 2010 2010 0 0 0 0
2010 6 178 Arthur Moats LB BUF 2010 2012 0 0 0 5 5.0
2010 6 192 Danny Batten DE BUF 2011 2011 0 0 0 2 0.5
2010 7 209 Levi Brown QB BUF 2010 2010 0 0 0 0
2010 7 216 Kyle Calloway T BUF 0 0 0
2009 1 11 Aaron Maybin DE BUF 2009 2012 0 0 0 6 6.0
2009 1 28 Eric Wood C BUF 2009 2012 0 0 4 17
2009 2 42 Jairus Byrd DB BUF 2009 2012 0 1 4 29 18 2.0
Misc Rushing Receiving
Year Rnd Pick Player Pos Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk
2009 2 51 Andy Levitre G BUF 2009 2012 0 0 4 24
2009 4 121 Shawn Nelson TE BUF 2009 2010 0 0 1 3 20 181 1
2009 5 147 Nic Harris LB BUF 2010 2010 0 0 0 3 1.5
2009 6 183 Cary Harris DB BUF 2009 2010 0 0 0 1 2
2009 7 220 Ellis Lankster DB BUF 2009 2012 0 0 0 4 2 1.0
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 4/24/2013.

This bountiful harvest yielded only one Pro Bowl pick and only six players with a career AV in double digits. More importantly, only 5 out of these 37 players have been starters for more than one season, and 20 of them (54%!!) have started fewer than 5 games. This is remarkable given the fact that the Bills have been bad to quite bad over this span so it shouldn't be too hard to replace the incumbent starters. Instead they continue to misfire in the draft (and free agency, but that's another post) and start the same old dreck.

Even when Buddy hits the mark he manages to screw it up long-term. For instance, Andy Levitre was a nice find in the second round and helped solidify a shaky offensive line. Nix let him go in free agency. CJ Spiller is a great player but the Bills already had Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch so they didn't need a running back. The Bills took Lynch with the 12th pick in 2007. When Nix drafted Spiller, Lynch was 24 years old and had two 1000 yard seasons and a Pro Bowl trip under his belt. Nix traded Lynch to Seattle after 4 weeks of the 2010 season and got back picks in the 4th and 5th rounds. Those picks became Chris Hairston (part-time starter at LT and RT) and Tank Carder (awesomely named LB who never made the Bills' roster), respectively.

Lynch has, of course, gone on to be one of league's the three best running backs over the past two seasons. Seriously, look:

Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds
Player Tm G GS Att Yds Y/A TD Y/G Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G TotOff YScm APYd RtY
Adrian Peterson MIN 28 28 556 3067 5.52 24 109.5 58 356 6.14 2 12.7 3067 3423 3423 0
Marshawn Lynch SEA 31 29 600 2794 4.66 23 90.1 51 408 8.00 2 13.2 2794 3202 3202 0
Arian Foster HTX 29 28 629 2648 4.21 25 91.3 93 834 8.97 4 28.8 2648 3482 3482 0
Ray Rice RAV 32 32 548 2507 4.57 21 78.3 137 1182 8.63 4 36.9 2508 3689 3689 0
Frank Gore SFO 32 31 540 2425 4.49 16 75.8 45 348 7.73 1 10.9 2425 2773 2773 0
Chris Johnson OTI 32 31 538 2290 4.26 10 71.6 93 650 6.99 0 20.3 2290 2940 2940 0
Steven Jackson RAM 31 30 517 2187 4.23 9 70.5 80 654 8.18 1 21.1 2187 2841 2841 0
LeSean McCoy PHI 27 27 473 2149 4.54 19 79.6 102 688 6.75 6 25.5 2149 2837 2837 0
Michael Turner ATL 32 30 523 2140 4.09 21 66.9 36 296 8.22 1 9.3 2140 2436 2436 0
Shonn Greene NYJ 32 28 529 2117 4.00 14 66.2 49 362 7.39 0 11.3 2117 2479 2479 0
Matt Forte CHI 27 27 451 2091 4.64 8 77.4 96 830 8.65 2 30.7 2091 2921 2921 0
Reggie Bush MIA 31 31 443 2072 4.68 12 66.8 78 588 7.54 3 19.0 2072 2660 2712 52
Maurice Jones-Drew JAX 22 21 429 2020 4.71 9 91.8 57 460 8.07 4 20.9 2020 2480 2484 4
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 4/24/2013.

Second most rushing yards, third most rushing TD, fourth most all-purpose yards, and more receiving yards than AP! Maybe this explosion of productivity is due entirely to Seattle's system or supporting cast. Maybe the trade served as a kick in the ass to Lynch when he realized his value was only two mid-to-late draft picks. No matter how you rationalize this, it's really tough to watch your team draft a RB #12, suck for three years, then draft another RB at #9 and give up on the other highly drafted RB in return for very little so that the abandoned RB can go on and tear up the league.

Even the Marcell Dareus pick is starting to look a little suspect. Dareus is a nice player for sure, but take a look at who they passed on when they took him:

Misc Games Passing Rushing Receiving
Pick Player Pos Tm AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
1 Cam Newton QB CAR 0 0 2 33 32 32 13-19-0 590 1002 7920 40 29 253 1447 22 1 33 0 Auburn
2 Von Miller LB DEN 0 1 2 28 31 31 1 30.0 Texas A&M
3 Marcell Dareus DT BUF 0 0 2 14 32 31 11.0 Alabama
4 A.J. Green WR CIN 0 1 2 22 31 31 9 91 0 162 2407 18 Georgia
5 Patrick Peterson CB ARI 1 1 2 33 32 32 3 13 0 4 10 0 9 1.0 LSU
6 Julio Jones WR ATL 0 0 2 22 29 27 12 86 0 133 2157 18 Alabama
7 Aldon Smith DE SFO 0 0 1 18 32 16 1 33.5 Missouri
8 Jake Locker QB TEN 0 0 1 8 16 11 4-7-0 211 380 2718 14 11 49 347 2 Washington
9 Tyron Smith T DAL 0 0 2 16 31 31 USC
10 Blaine Gabbert QB JAX 0 0 2 7 25 24 5-19-0 372 691 3876 21 17 66 154 0 Missouri
11 J.J. Watt DE HOU 0 0 2 30 32 31 26.0 Wisconsin
12 Christian Ponder QB MIN 0 0 2 16 27 26 12-14-0 458 774 4788 31 25 88 472 2 1 -15 0 Florida St.
13 Nick Fairley DT DET 0 0 0 6 23 7 6.5 Auburn
14 Robert Quinn DE STL 0 0 1 9 31 15 15.5 North Carolina
15 Mike Pouncey OL MIA 0 0 2 12 32 32 Central Florida
16 Ryan Kerrigan DE WAS 0 0 2 14 32 32 2 16.0 Purdue
17 Nate Solder OL NWE 0 0 2 20 32 29 Colorado
18 Corey Liuget DT SDG 0 0 2 13 31 29 8.0 East. Illinois
19 Prince Amukamara CB NYG 0 0 1 5 20 11 2 Nebraska
20 Adrian Clayborn DL TAM 0 0 1 6 19 19 7.5 Iowa
21 Phil Taylor DL CLE 0 0 1 12 24 23 5.0 Baylor
22 Anthony Castonzo OL IND 0 0 2 11 27 27 Boston Col.
23 Danny Watkins OL PHI 0 0 1 8 23 18 Baylor
24 Cameron Jordan DE NOR 0 0 2 14 32 31 9.0 California
25 James Carpenter OL SEA 0 0 0 6 16 16 Alabama
26 Jonathan Baldwin WR KAN 0 0 0 4 26 9 41 579 2 Pittsburgh
27 Jimmy Smith CB BAL 0 0 0 3 24 5 2 Colorado
28 Mark Ingram RB NOR 0 0 0 8 26 9 278 1076 10 17 75 0 Alabama
29 Gabe Carimi OL CHI 0 0 1 6 18 16 Wisc-Eau Claire
30 Muhammad Wilkerson DT NYJ 0 0 2 19 32 31 8.0 Temple
Misc Games Passing Rushing Receiving
Pick Player Pos Tm AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
31 Cameron Heyward DT PIT 0 0 0 4 31 0 2.5 Ohio St.
32 Derek Sherrod OL GNB 0 0 0 1 5 0 Mississippi St.
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 4/24/2013.

There was a lot of D-line talent in that round drafted after Dareus (Smith, Watt, Wilkerson) and studs like Peterson, Green, Jones, and Solder. Luckily the Bills had Ryan Fitzpatrick so they didn't need to waste a pick on Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick, who both went in the second round.

Continuing with their same theme since 1996, this year the Bills are again in need of a QB. Good QB's have appeared lately after round 1 (Dalton, Kaepernick, Russell Wilson) and I understand that Ryan Nassib could very well be available for to the Bills to pick at 41. Bills fans who like to argue with other Bills fans on Bills fans messageboards like Nassib because he went to Syracuse, which is geographically near Buffalo and thus is something of a known commodity because he was frequently on TV in western NY. Of course, JP Losman and Todd Collins were frequently on TV in western NY but that doesn't mean they were good fits for the Bills. New Bills coach Doug Marrone was Nassib's coach at Syracuse so he's seen lots of Nassib on TV too. And it honestly makes some sense for a rookie QB to play for his college coach--this has to help accelerate his learning.

The Bills need O-linemen and this draft is apparently chock full of them. They also need linebackers but apparently there aren't many in this draft. So in a perfect world (or at least my imagined perfect world) they would take a massive offensive lineman from the SEC like DJ Fluker or Chance Warmack at #8, then Nassib at #41 if he's available. If Nassib isn't there, take the best LB/QB/OL available and roll Kevin Kolb out there for a year.

In the real world, I expect Nix to draft Nassib at #8 and a WR at #41 (like Cordouroy Patterson from Tennessee, if he's available). It would be funny to joke that he'll then take Mike Glennon in the 3rd but Buddy really might do that despite signing Kolb and Tavaris Jackson.