Sorry to curtail LDT, Z-Man, but I'm feeling the pro-Jets (and pro-filler) vibe. As long as nobody posts any photos of that wuss Kerry Rhodes doing any modeling, I'll be a happy Jets fan.
Apples and oranges. The Tribe has no history of soul-crushing let-downs. The Jets' post-69 history is a seemingly endless string of soul-crushing let-downs.
Actually Z-Man, to those of us who have followed Tribe sports over the years there have been quite a few crushing losses. Not of Met/Jet frequency, but still crappy.
not to get all political here, but if the democrats lose the senate race in massachusetts, they deserve what comes next. both parties are proving over and over again that neither of them are fit to govern.
Darren Sharper's muffed punt in a 38-35 quarterfinals loss against Northern Iowa in the fall of 1996, in one of his last plays as a collegiate, is certainly a crushing way to lose.
And the magnitude and pervasiveness of the basketball team's suckitude has to qualify for something.
that northern iowa loss was made worse by the fact that the tribe had come roaring back from big deficit and was in position to complete the comeback before sharper muffed the punt. or so i recall. we listened to that one on the radio.
You should differentiate between the Tribe football and Tribe hoops programs. Tribe football, like TR and the Marlinboro Man attested, is much like the pre-2004 Red Sox. Those periodically recurring heartbreaking letdowns when you thought they were gonna go all the way.
The men's basketball program, as Z-Bass contended, has been more akin to the 2000's Mets. Filled with suckitude, and even when they finally get it together, they manage to blow it in embarrassing fashion. 2008 excepted, perhaps.
Sorry, with Misery Loves Company dead, you're probably gonna get stuck with a lot more Mets/Sox ramblings.
I thought "the tribe is awesome" thing was in reference to Tripe Hoops, which cannot be compared to Tribe Football. The football team is consistently good but not-quite-good-enough, so I guess I can see the Jets comparison. But never, ever, has the basketball risen to the level of "serviceable," let alone "good." You can't tell me you've suffered tons of heartbreak while rooting for the basketball team.
1997-98 Tribe Basketball. Team wins 20 games and ties for the regular season conference title. Based on a coin flip, they play American (who had to win the play in game) in the first round of the CAA tourney and lose. Only team in Division 1 that year to win 20 games and not go to the NCAA's or NIT. Very Jet like.
The Rev. Pat Robertson, on his CBN broadcast today, offered his own explanation of the earthquake in Haiti:
"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," he said. "They were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'
"True story. And the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal,'" Robertson said. "Ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."
His words, which refer to a piece of Haitian folklore about the country's founder, Toussaint L'Ouverture, come around the 6:00 mark in the report above, which also includes interviews with missionary groups active in the country.
My wife and I vacationed in Costa Rica in 2004. We spent our last night at a hotel next to the airport. We met a group of Christian missionaries who were completing a trip there to work with the poor.
You would think that you'd have compassion for these folks, but they were among the most ignorant, unintelligent rednecks I'd ever met. They told me they were there to help the poor and bring Jesus Christ into their lives. It was like blackmail - They'll help the poor build a community center in their poor village, but they'll be forced to hear about Christianity ad nauseaum until they commit. And if they don't commit, the missionaries may never come back and help. Especially if you listen to the Mormons who are sure to swing by here again.
It's like a bizarro recruiting process. We listened to the missionaries explain what they did and realized they spoke the most guttural English you'd ever heard. Phrases like "they ain't had the light of Jesus Christ in they lives yet" and "we here to save some souls" left us scratching our heads.
It's for that reason that my compassion for people like the Tebow family is very limited. Sure, they travel the world to help people, but they do it with a string attached - join us and become a Christian because it's bad if you don't.
Even Mother Teresa, whose name is the reference point for sainthood, was known to reserve her special acts of kindness only for people who had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.
Pat's people were the ones leading the charge when Gene Nichol was being crucified for the Wren cross deal. Somewhere far away, Jesus winces yet again.
I completely get what TR's saying and agree with much of it. However, using your experience with one group of missionaries to color your perception of all missionaries is a pretty big (and convenient) leap. And no, this doesn't have anything to do with Tebow. I found his evangelizing quite tiresome at points as well. Additionally, I grew up having Catholicism shoved down my throat and have had numerous unpleasant experiences and/or conversations with missionaries from my former parish. Many of them are terribly short sighted people who aren't really doing these works out of the goodness of their heart but to pad their stats for eternal life or convert "people to the light". At the same time though, many others are genuinely good hearted people who want to help those less fortunate, and if they get to talk about Jeebus whilst doing so then all the better.
As for the missionary model of we'll do this if you accept Christ, well, it's better than the old model of "accept Christ or we'll exile or kill you". Baby steps, I guess.
i think that there are a great many selfless, giving people sacrificing a great deal more than i'm willing to in order to help their fellow man, and i admire these people immensely. i just have a great distrust for the motives and actions of organized church movements, particularly those that claim some divinely inspired and infallible understanding of God's plan.
Sorry to curtail LDT, Z-Man, but I'm feeling the pro-Jets (and pro-filler) vibe. As long as nobody posts any photos of that wuss Kerry Rhodes doing any modeling, I'll be a happy Jets fan.
ReplyDeleteYou really should stick with the "Chargers will lose" angle rather than the "Jets will win" approach. A Jet fan should know better by now.
ReplyDeleteyeah, it's not as if we're running around posting 'the tribe is awesome' stuff.
ReplyDeleteoh.
those thousands of horndogs descending upon our fair blog to see pictures of rachel glandorf are going to be wicked confused by the past few days.
ReplyDeleteApples and oranges. The Tribe has no history of soul-crushing let-downs. The Jets' post-69 history is a seemingly endless string of soul-crushing let-downs.
ReplyDeleteRachel Glandorf.
ReplyDeleteActually Z-Man, to those of us who have followed Tribe sports over the years there have been quite a few crushing losses. Not of Met/Jet frequency, but still crappy.
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ReplyDelete"If murdered, I hope my genital herpes are dormant at the time. I don't want to spend the rest of eternity with... you know."
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not to get all political here, but if the democrats lose the senate race in massachusetts, they deserve what comes next. both parties are proving over and over again that neither of them are fit to govern.
ReplyDeletez-man, get out there and vote aggressively.
I left the Commonwealth. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe that I didn't think of this first.
ReplyDeletehttp://dirtyrottenflowers.com/
dammit, i knew that. still, go back and vote.
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ReplyDeleteDarren Sharper's muffed punt in a 38-35 quarterfinals loss against Northern Iowa in the fall of 1996, in one of his last plays as a collegiate, is certainly a crushing way to lose.
ReplyDeleteAnd the magnitude and pervasiveness of the basketball team's suckitude has to qualify for something.
that northern iowa loss was made worse by the fact that the tribe had come roaring back from big deficit and was in position to complete the comeback before sharper muffed the punt. or so i recall. we listened to that one on the radio.
ReplyDeleteYou should differentiate between the Tribe football and Tribe hoops programs. Tribe football, like TR and the Marlinboro Man attested, is much like the pre-2004 Red Sox. Those periodically recurring heartbreaking letdowns when you thought they were gonna go all the way.
ReplyDeleteThe men's basketball program, as Z-Bass contended, has been more akin to the 2000's Mets. Filled with suckitude, and even when they finally get it together, they manage to blow it in embarrassing fashion. 2008 excepted, perhaps.
Sorry, with Misery Loves Company dead, you're probably gonna get stuck with a lot more Mets/Sox ramblings.
I thought "the tribe is awesome" thing was in reference to Tripe Hoops, which cannot be compared to Tribe Football. The football team is consistently good but not-quite-good-enough, so I guess I can see the Jets comparison. But never, ever, has the basketball risen to the level of "serviceable," let alone "good." You can't tell me you've suffered tons of heartbreak while rooting for the basketball team.
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ReplyDelete1997-98 Tribe Basketball. Team wins 20 games and ties for the regular season conference title. Based on a coin flip, they play American (who had to win the play in game) in the first round of the CAA tourney and lose. Only team in Division 1 that year to win 20 games and not go to the NCAA's or NIT. Very Jet like.
ReplyDeleteRoger Vick
ReplyDeleteaccording to the haitian pm, hundreds of thousands dead, 3m displaced (1/3 of the country's population). mercy.
ReplyDeleteHundreds of thousands? Seriously? How many died in the tsunami a couple years back? I don't think it even approached this level.
ReplyDeleteWell, per NatGeo, the 2004 tsunami killed over 150,000.
ReplyDeleteThe conversation with myself about major natural disasters will now be a weekly feature in the comments section at G:TB.
ReplyDeleteMore importantly, WTF was LDT thinking with that video?
ReplyDeletean imagined future comment thread:
ReplyDeletegeoff, how did you feel about pompeii?
well, geoff, we learned a lot about staying low in a fire from that disaster, so on balance i think it wasn't so bad.
smart, geoff. very smart.
Yep. I'm headed back to the lab to work on a one man point-counterpoint on Hurricane Andrew.
ReplyDeleteHey Rob, you might want to take a gander at Pat Roberston's take on the Haiti Disaster.
ReplyDeleteGeoff refers to:
ReplyDeleteThe Rev. Pat Robertson, on his CBN broadcast today, offered his own explanation of the earthquake in Haiti:
"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," he said. "They were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'
"True story. And the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal,'" Robertson said. "Ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another."
His words, which refer to a piece of Haitian folklore about the country's founder, Toussaint L'Ouverture, come around the 6:00 mark in the report above, which also includes interviews with missionary groups active in the country.
...and my favorite part is "True story."
ReplyDeleteSpoken like he was there to witness the Haitian founder and Satan himself shake on it a couple hundred years ago.
My wife and I vacationed in Costa Rica in 2004. We spent our last night at a hotel next to the airport. We met a group of Christian missionaries who were completing a trip there to work with the poor.
ReplyDeleteYou would think that you'd have compassion for these folks, but they were among the most ignorant, unintelligent rednecks I'd ever met. They told me they were there to help the poor and bring Jesus Christ into their lives. It was like blackmail - They'll help the poor build a community center in their poor village, but they'll be forced to hear about Christianity ad nauseaum until they commit. And if they don't commit, the missionaries may never come back and help. Especially if you listen to the Mormons who are sure to swing by here again.
It's like a bizarro recruiting process. We listened to the missionaries explain what they did and realized they spoke the most guttural English you'd ever heard. Phrases like "they ain't had the light of Jesus Christ in they lives yet" and "we here to save some souls" left us scratching our heads.
It's for that reason that my compassion for people like the Tebow family is very limited. Sure, they travel the world to help people, but they do it with a string attached - join us and become a Christian because it's bad if you don't.
every time pat robertson speaks, an angel gets tortured. i'd say that his comments are mind-boggling, except that they're so fucking predictable.
ReplyDeleteEven Mother Teresa, whose name is the reference point for sainthood, was known to reserve her special acts of kindness only for people who had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.
ReplyDeletePat's people were the ones leading the charge when Gene Nichol was being crucified for the Wren cross deal. Somewhere far away, Jesus winces yet again.
And Pat Robertson might want to rent "The Serpent and the Rainbow" before going on TV with such statements.
ReplyDeleteI completely get what TR's saying and agree with much of it. However, using your experience with one group of missionaries to color your perception of all missionaries is a pretty big (and convenient) leap. And no, this doesn't have anything to do with Tebow. I found his evangelizing quite tiresome at points as well. Additionally, I grew up having Catholicism shoved down my throat and have had numerous unpleasant experiences and/or conversations with missionaries from my former parish. Many of them are terribly short sighted people who aren't really doing these works out of the goodness of their heart but to pad their stats for eternal life or convert "people to the light". At the same time though, many others are genuinely good hearted people who want to help those less fortunate, and if they get to talk about Jeebus whilst doing so then all the better.
ReplyDeleteAs for the missionary model of we'll do this if you accept Christ, well, it's better than the old model of "accept Christ or we'll exile or kill you". Baby steps, I guess.
I really can't emphasize enough how much I'm enjoying the Lane Kiffin/Tennessee/USC clusterfuck.
ReplyDeletei think that there are a great many selfless, giving people sacrificing a great deal more than i'm willing to in order to help their fellow man, and i admire these people immensely. i just have a great distrust for the motives and actions of organized church movements, particularly those that claim some divinely inspired and infallible understanding of God's plan.
ReplyDeletealso, the kiffin clusterfuck is riveting.
and i apparently have a great deal of affinity for word 'great'.
ReplyDeleteThe backcourt of Ashton Gibbs and Brad Wanamaker look nothing like I would imagine.
ReplyDeleteGood job saying what I think better than I can, Rob.
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